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[Willie99]

Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/18/2020.*

Data as of April 24, 2020

Week ending date in which the death occurred	COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Pneumonia Deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3	Influenza Deaths (J09–J11)4	Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5
Total Deaths	24,555	654,798	96	54,962	11,070	5,571	73,358
2/1/2020	0	57,146	96	3,680	0	465	4,145
2/8/2020	0	57,284	96	3,646	0	491	4,137
2/15/2020	0	56,499	96	3,668	0	511	4,179
2/22/2020	0	56,259	97	3,528	0	529	4,057
2/29/2020	5	55,972	97	3,563	3	604	4,169
3/7/2020	21	55,516	96	3,677	12	579	4,264
3/14/2020	49	53,529	94	3,642	25	569	4,234
3/21/2020	478	53,437	94	4,096	221	489	4,835
3/28/2020	2,569	56,273	100	5,482	1,187	391	7,211
4/4/2020	7,383	61,261	109	8,221	3,591	412	12,224
4/11/2020	9,958	58,378	103	8,160	4,373	394	13,838
4/18/2020	4,092	33,244	62	3,599	1,658	137	6,065

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[Willie99]

[h=4]Table 2. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by age group, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/18/2020.*[/h][FONT=&quot]Data as of April 24, 2020[/FONT]
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Age group	COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Pneumonia Deaths (J12.0–J18.9)2	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)2	Influenza Deaths (J09–J11)3	Population4
All ages	24,555	654,798	54,962	11,070	5,571	327,167,434
Under 1 year	0	3,430	31	0	11	3,848,208
1–4 years	2	670	32	2	28	15,962,067
5–14 years	1	979	34	0	39	41,075,169
15–24 years	22	5,814	120	11	39	42,970,800
25–34 years	194	12,355	392	80	125	45,697,774
35–44 years	479	17,775	865	186	197	41,277,888
45–54 years	1,316	34,436	2,265	539	486	41,631,699
55–64 years	3,124	82,866	6,606	1,358	1,026	42,272,636
65–74 years	5,376	129,025	11,432	2,368	1,223	30,492,316
75–84 years	6,773	162,006	15,190	3,145	1,234	15,394,374
85 years and over	7,268	205,442	17,995	3,381	1,163	6,544,503

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[Willie99]

[h=4]Table 5. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 4/18/2020.*[/h][FONT=&quot]Data as of April 24, 2020[/FONT]
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Jurisdiction of Occurrence	COVID-19 Deaths (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Pneumonia Deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3	Influenza Deaths (J09–J11)4
United States5	24,555	654,798	96	54,962	11,070	5,571
Alabama	113	11,553	90	714	34	83
Alaska	-	789	78	37	-	-
Arizona	156	14,756	101	1,034	85	103
Arkansas	19	7,245	94	485	-	66
California	813	64,633	97	5,437	450	541
Colorado	392	9,936	103	838	243	90
Connecticut	-	461	0	29	0	-
Delaware	28	1,939	77	108	14	14
District of Columbia	44	1,331	89	146	44	-
Florida	674	50,784	99	3,640	370	277
Georgia	335	18,158	88	1,167	165	91
Hawaii	-	2,656	92	182	-	18
Idaho	38	3,393	97	185	11	24
Illinois	748	26,345	103	2,269	428	167
Indiana	238	15,292	92	1,299	133	118
Iowa	48	6,906	94	493	12	78
Kansas	39	6,041	92	407	17	85
Kentucky	70	9,957	84	885	45	83
Louisiana	538	10,099	91	668	219	60
Maine	26	3,562	99	302	10	30
Maryland	444	12,494	102	1,100	198	104
Massachusetts	1,016	15,550	105	1,638	402	148
Michigan	1,264	24,499	103	2,188	597	214
Minnesota	100	10,496	99	762	41	111
Mississippi	117	7,408	97	644	57	51
Missouri	117	14,006	89	878	50	166
Montana	-	2,248	90	132	-	32
Nebraska	21	3,696	90	285	-	27
Nevada	99	6,003	95	484	80	35
New Hampshire	42	2,974	99	203	15	29
New Jersey	3,018	22,310	123	3,031	1,549	102
New Mexico	28	4,003	85	281	20	25
New York6	3,567	28,773	118	4,246	1,889	185
New York City	8,073	25,978	198	4,741	2,913	726
North Carolina	0	9,131	38	557	0	107
North Dakota	-	1,504	86	135	-	18
Ohio	168	24,258	80	1,382	73	217
Oklahoma	74	8,163	83	717	29	88
Oregon	58	7,804	88	417	25	56
Pennsylvania	690	25,641	77	1,794	297	173
Rhode Island	31	2,075	80	108	-	23
South Carolina	103	12,063	100	720	43	90
South Dakota	-	1,814	90	143	-	21
Tennessee	107	17,104	95	1,289	53	117
Texas	256	44,867	92	3,274	92	306
Utah	18	4,427	93	262	-	38
Vermont	35	1,461	101	99	-	15
Virginia	131	16,252	97	864	48	98
Washington	463	13,384	97	1,109	250	96
West Virginia	-	4,647	84	332	0	56
Wisconsin	159	12,869	100	739	26	142
Wyoming	-	1,060	97	83	0	-
Puerto Rico	52	4,732	68	664	27	28

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[Willie99]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

People can choose to become informed, you can choose to look at facts, you can choose to think

Or you can let some biased authored with his own opinion / agenda tell you what to think

The choice is yours

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Thanks for posting these tables Willie......

The left wing liberals have the media on their side Willie, they control 95% of what's on TV.......but with the internet, You Tube, etc......you can actually post facts. The (FNM), fake news media have a narrative & won't change course on this.

 

[TheFalls]

these numbers are all that matter...5 years and forward...no one will ever care about number of infections or number tested.

the ones who even care now and want to prolong this for other reasons are on opposite ends of the spectrum...they are either well off...or they are unproductive...and these people will suffer even more in the long run. (both selfish perspectives and will reap what they sew...helps me sleep better at night knowing this)

 

[SmallDaddy]

So basically 500 people die from pneumonia per day, 100 from flu per day ( before corona virus)

Coronavirus about 2000 people per day with lockdown-- would easily double without it

4500 seems fair without stay at home orders

 

[jaws2357]

Small minded infectious MobDsters will never see the truth they see what they want to believe & are delusional. drms are the cancer & virus

 

[azbob]

Maybe we would have gotten by without shutting down the economy if we isolated and provided necessary resources for those over 65 (75% of all deaths) instead of trying to impact the behavior of 330m across the US. You can't second guess actions early in the process, but now you have plenty of data to understand the extreme lack of balance and focus in containment versus maintaining an economy that supports the majority of all Americans. The victim profile identified from the rest of the world (over 60 with at least three underlying conditions) has held true. We implemented the same tactics for every person in the US. Time to tie what we learned to action.

 

[SmallDaddy]

at first you didnt know who its killing.

Could have been everyone across the board

 

[bodyforlife]

Interesting. Hmmm...am I missing something? Thought we were supposed to have over 50k corona virus deaths?

 

[bodyforlife]

Oh nevermind. I see how they're playing this game. SMFH.

 

[MrBetitall]

This morning's official tally

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Last updated: April 26, 2020, 07:01 GMT[/FONT]​

Country, Other	Total Cases	New Cases	Total Deaths	New Deaths	Total Recovered	Active Cases	Serious, Critical	Tot Cases/ 1M pop	Deaths/ 1M pop	Total Tests	Tests/ <nobr style="box-sizing: border-box; transform: translateZ(0px) !important;">1M pop</nobr>
World	2,923,111	+3,707	203,307	+143	837,323	1,882,481	57,875	375	26.1
USA	960,896	+245	54,265	+9	118,162	788,469	15,110	2,903	164	5,279,237	15,949
Spain	223,759		22,902		95,708	105,149	7,705	4,786	490	930,230	19,896
Italy	195,351		26,384		63,120	105,847	2,102	3,231	436	1,707,743	28,245
France	161,488		22,614		44,594	94,280	4,725	2,474	346	463,662	7,103
Germany	156,513		5,877		109,800	40,836	2,570	1,868	70	2,072,669	24,738
UK	148,377		20,319		N/A	127,714	1,559	2,186	299	640,792	9,439
Turkey	107,773		2,706		25,582	79,485	1,782	1,278	32	868,565	10,298
Iran	89,328		5,650		68,193	15,485	3,096	1,064	67	410,075	4,882
China	82,827	+11	4,632		77,394	801	51	58	3

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[Willie99]

I see deaths, but nowhere near the numbers like keeping them to 200,000 would be a success, and this was after shutdown orders

I see deaths from other causes, like 60,000 pneumonia deaths that happen every year that never lead to the panic that was sold this year

Not listed, but I know deaths from other diseases and addictions, heart and opioid, that kill more Americans every year and we do so much less. Again, no panic

I see deaths that impact higher risk demographics to a much higher degree, something I seemed to know from day 1. It was out there already, after all this is a bug. Even looking at those demographics, it's people with other illnesses that die far more often (not listed). This data strongly suggests we can focus more so on protecting certain people.

I see a concentration of deaths, with the greater NYC area being far and away the worse. Strongly suggesting the whole country doesn't need to be shut down.

We also know a lot more people have been inflicted that were asymptomatic, which reduces the death rate much closer to seasonal flu death rates


Those are facts

 

[bodyforlife]

I'm figuring they're combining columns. I can only assume this magic 50k number perhaps is Corona virus deaths + People with Pneumonia and Coronavirus (it still doesn't look like it would get to 50k since the end date of the report is just 8 days ago). So basically, they're fudging the numbers. But maybe one of the Useful Idiots that are claiming the 50k can explain it using the charts. I'll wait and see if they chime in or if suddenly they turn into crickets (since we know they read everything here).

Governor Abbott is having a press conference on more re-openings tomorrow so hopefully he's just looking at these numbers and not wasting his time with the media, youtube videos, op-eds, and the like, like the Useful Idiots do. It's clear not many states in the country are like New York in their geographic configuration so we shouldn't need to all play by the same rules.

 

[Willie99]

I'm figuring they're combining columns. I can only assume this magic 50k number perhaps is Corona virus deaths + People with Pneumonia and Coronavirus (it still doesn't look like it would get to 50k since the end date of the report is just 8 days ago). So basically, they're fudging the numbers. But maybe one of the Useful Idiots that are claiming the 50k can explain it using the charts. I'll wait and see if they chime in or if suddenly they turn into crickets (since we know they read everything here).

Governor Abbott is having a press conference on more re-openings tomorrow so hopefully he's just looking at these numbers and not wasting his time with the media, youtube videos, op-eds, and the like, like the Useful Idiots do. It's clear not many states in the country are like New York in their geographic configuration so we shouldn't need to all play by the same rules.

this was the most recent data available on the CDC website last night and it was for the period 2/1/2020 through 4/18/2020. I know last week was by far the worst week, the peak week, so when the chart is released through 4/25/2020 the Covid-19 deaths will surge

yet still, none of the arguments I'm making will change

I think it's probable Covid-19 death will exceed pneumonia this year, and probably this year only

Other leading causes of death

Heart disease 650,000
Drug overdose 70,000
Opioids only 50,000
Car accidents 40,000
Swimming 4,000

 

[Willie99]

[FONT=&quot][h=1]Leading Causes of Death[/h][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Data are for the U.S.
[COLOR=#FFFFFF !important]Number of deaths for leading causes of death

• Heart disease: 647,457
• Cancer: 599,108
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
• Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
• Diabetes: 83,564
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

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[StevieRay]

It’s pretty frequent now in my travels and talking with people that own businesses that they all are a little suspicious of total shutdown and the economy

And this is from people that were allowed to stay open and business has grown / profited from this

 

[Albatross]

How can we sticky this thread?

The main thing I wanna see coming out of this is if we didnt add to our daily or yearly death count......that will be the time when even the uneducated sheep with believe we have been hoodwinked

 

[StevieRay]

Where is the thread at the beginning that was stating over a million deaths in US?